GBC Series of Power Supplies

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GBC Series of Power Supplies

Post by Gilbert Y » Tue Apr 08, 2014 4:14 pm

Here is the first of a new series of power supplies.

https://www.flickr.com/photos/17843311@ ... 660442194/

So with so many power supply to choose from why are we having another series of power supply? It is because I have learned a few new things by designing, thinking and building the X1e, X0e, KQ and all of the other power supplies. I can say this GBC is the result of the combine experience of over 10 years. The very first GBC is call the GBC500. There are going to be smaller and bigger versions available in the future.

The GBC has a build in KQ output. All of the GBC can power all of our solid-state phone stage from FLT all the way to the BC703 and anything in between. Also can be used with all of our solid-state preamps, and solid-state headphone amps and also DACs. Anything line level solid-state models can be use with GBC power supplies. Some many require higher model and some can be use with basic model. Again, this GBC500 is in the middle of the series.

All the GBC can be built in single pipe, dual pipes and some of the higher model will require a triple pipes. For example, if someone want a GBC500 and think at 21" it's too long for the shelf. We can do a dual 10" pipe. I design the GBC500 to sit on the floor beside the equipment rack but everyone set up is different. You tell us how your want the pipe(s) config and we will do it for you. Just say the words. If you need help, contact us.

The GBC power supplies can be used as upgrade to existing power supply. For example in this picture, the GBC500 is connect to a BC509 DAC as upgrade power supply.

https://www.flickr.com/photos/17843311@ ... 3660442194

The internal power supply does not need to be remove. However, a special connect is require to install on the back of the DAC so it can connects to a GBC. Once the GBC is connect to the DAC, the original power cord is not needed.

Here are the pricing for three models of the GBC power supplies
GBC100, $395.00
GBC250, $795.00
GBC500, $1095.00
GBC1000, $1595.00
GBC2000, $2295.00

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Post by Gilbert Y » Tue Apr 08, 2014 4:18 pm

Forgot the little guy the GBC50

Here are the pricing for three models of the GBC power supplies
GBC50, $95.00
GBC100, $395.00
GBC250, $795.00
GBC500, $1095.00
GBC1000, $1595.00
GBC2000, $2295.00

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Post by Jeddy » Tue Apr 08, 2014 7:34 pm

so would someone looking to KQ their amp go the GBC route instead??
What's the breakdown as to how much each unit contributes?

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Post by Gilbert Y » Tue Apr 08, 2014 10:38 pm

Jeddy wrote:so would someone looking to KQ their amp go the GBC route instead??
What's the breakdown as to how much each unit contributes?
If someone looking for KQ something, this GBC power supply is a better way to go if the model can accept one of this power supply. How much improvement each model can provide will depends on what the original equipment have. For example, if your have a BC509, adding a GBC50 or GBC100 wouldn't be much of an improvement, adding a GBC250 will start to have noticeable improvement. Anything on top will be a real treat.

On the other hand, if the original is a BC507, then it has to be a GBC500 or higher before a noticeable improvement can be heard.

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GBC additional info

Post by Gilbert Y » Tue Apr 08, 2014 11:30 pm

Here are a few more points of this new GBC series of power supplies.

1) The GBC is replacing all of the Thingee power supplies including the Power Supply iaB. This includes, the Standard Power Supply, Biggie Pipe Power Supply, SP Cap Pack and the Really Big Pipe Power Supply. We are working on the new price list and web site to reflect this.

2) GBC design can be purpose build for almost any preamps, phonostages, DACs, ADCs, laptop computers, hard drives as long as they are solid-state unit. Sometime if the power supply require heatsinking, it may be best to build inside a metal chassis instead of ABS pipe.

In another word, if you have a solid-state preamp of another brand and you want to improve the perfomance, you can send the preamp to us and we can suggest what we can do to improve the power supply without doing much inside. By using a GBC, all we need to do is to install a connector to connect the GBC and a few wire inside to connect the internal power supply. IF, the preamp, DACs, or phonostage already have an external power supply, we can simply terminate the GBC umbilical cord with the same connector of your unit and it can take the benefit of the GBC power supply offer.

3) All GBC power supplies can be built inside a metal chassis or other fancier looking chassis. We are building this in ABS pipe as standard when ever is possible to save cost. For example, GBC500 sell for $1095.00. $25 worth of cosmetics and the rest are performance. If we have to build it in a metal chassis, it will cost $1500.00.

I hope all of this make sense to everybody. If not, just ask.

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Post by splityew » Wed Apr 09, 2014 10:34 am

Hi Gilbert

I have a question about where a BC6000 fits in.

At the moment my BC DAC plugs into a BC6000. If I added a GBC, I am assuming that the order would be DAC into GBC into BC6000. Is this correct?

Also, related but not exactly the same, would the order be the same with a TPX120: DAC into TPX120 into BC6000?

Thanks

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Post by Gilbert Y » Wed Apr 09, 2014 12:50 pm

splityew wrote:Hi Gilbert

I have a question about where a BC6000 fits in.

At the moment my BC DAC plugs into a BC6000. If I added a GBC, I am assuming that the order would be DAC into GBC into BC6000. Is this correct?

Also, related but not exactly the same, would the order be the same with a TPX120: DAC into TPX120 into BC6000?

Thanks
Just want to make sure we understand the different between GBC, TPX120 and BC6000. GBCs are power suppies convert ac power into DC power so electronics components can use. BC6000 and TPX120 are ac powerline filter/conditioner the ac power. In another word, 120Vac in and 120Vac out. They are two different things. Now assuming you already understand this then the two combinations you have mentioned are correct.

For the first combo, DAC into GBC into BC6000, the DAC will need to come back to the factory for a quick mod. And the internal transformer only is bypass.

The second combo, DAC into TPX120 into BC6000. The DAC does not need to come back and the original transformer is remain in the chain. The TPX120 convert unbalanced 120Vac power into balanced 120Vac power.

Now I assume your next question is going to be which one is better. This is depends which DAC you have and which GBC power supply you are going to get.

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Post by Gilbert Y » Wed Apr 09, 2014 1:14 pm

Gilbert Y wrote:
splityew wrote:Hi Gilbert

I have a question about where a BC6000 fits in.

At the moment my BC DAC plugs into a BC6000. If I added a GBC, I am assuming that the order would be DAC into GBC into BC6000. Is this correct?

Also, related but not exactly the same, would the order be the same with a TPX120: DAC into TPX120 into BC6000?

Thanks
Just want to make sure we understand the different between GBC, TPX120 and BC6000. GBCs are power suppies convert ac power into DC power so electronics components can use. BC6000 and TPX120 are ac powerline filter/conditioner the ac power. In another word, 120Vac in and 120Vac out. They are two different things. Now assuming you already understand this then the two combinations you have mentioned are correct.

For the first combo, DAC into GBC into BC6000, the DAC will need to come back to the factory for a quick mod. And the internal transformer only is bypass.

The second combo, DAC into TPX120 into BC6000. The DAC does not need to come back and the original transformer is remain in the chain. The TPX120 convert unbalanced 120Vac power into balanced 120Vac power.

Now I assume your next question is going to be which one is better. This is depends which DAC you have and which GBC power supply you are going to get.
I should also add DAC into GBC into TPX120 into BC6000 is also possible.

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Post by splityew » Wed Apr 09, 2014 1:51 pm

Gilbert Y wrote:
Gilbert Y wrote:
splityew wrote:Hi Gilbert

I have a question about where a BC6000 fits in.

At the moment my BC DAC plugs into a BC6000. If I added a GBC, I am assuming that the order would be DAC into GBC into BC6000. Is this correct?

Also, related but not exactly the same, would the order be the same with a TPX120: DAC into TPX120 into BC6000?

Thanks
Just want to make sure we understand the different between GBC, TPX120 and BC6000. GBCs are power suppies convert ac power into DC power so electronics components can use. BC6000 and TPX120 are ac powerline filter/conditioner the ac power. In another word, 120Vac in and 120Vac out. They are two different things. Now assuming you already understand this then the two combinations you have mentioned are correct.

For the first combo, DAC into GBC into BC6000, the DAC will need to come back to the factory for a quick mod. And the internal transformer only is bypass.

The second combo, DAC into TPX120 into BC6000. The DAC does not need to come back and the original transformer is remain in the chain. The TPX120 convert unbalanced 120Vac power into balanced 120Vac power.

Now I assume your next question is going to be which one is better. This is depends which DAC you have and which GBC power supply you are going to get.
I should also add DAC into GBC into TPX120 into BC6000 is also possible.

Ah Ha! That was my next question.

Actually, Gilbert you have my DAC at the moment, we met SSI in Montreal and you are converting my 509 into a 507.

I'm interested in going the TPX route first, once I've broken in the 507 and feel the need to tinker with things again.

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Post by Gilbert Y » Wed Apr 09, 2014 2:20 pm

splityew wrote:
Gilbert Y wrote:
Gilbert Y wrote:
splityew wrote:Hi Gilbert

I have a question about where a BC6000 fits in.

At the moment my BC DAC plugs into a BC6000. If I added a GBC, I am assuming that the order would be DAC into GBC into BC6000. Is this correct?

Also, related but not exactly the same, would the order be the same with a TPX120: DAC into TPX120 into BC6000?

Thanks
Just want to make sure we understand the different between GBC, TPX120 and BC6000. GBCs are power suppies convert ac power into DC power so electronics components can use. BC6000 and TPX120 are ac powerline filter/conditioner the ac power. In another word, 120Vac in and 120Vac out. They are two different things. Now assuming you already understand this then the two combinations you have mentioned are correct.

For the first combo, DAC into GBC into BC6000, the DAC will need to come back to the factory for a quick mod. And the internal transformer only is bypass.

The second combo, DAC into TPX120 into BC6000. The DAC does not need to come back and the original transformer is remain in the chain. The TPX120 convert unbalanced 120Vac power into balanced 120Vac power.

Now I assume your next question is going to be which one is better. This is depends which DAC you have and which GBC power supply you are going to get.
I should also add DAC into GBC into TPX120 into BC6000 is also possible.

Ah Ha! That was my next question.

Actually, Gilbert you have my DAC at the moment, we met SSI in Montreal and you are converting my 509 into a 507.

I'm interested in going the TPX route first, once I've broken in the 507 and feel the need to tinker with things again.
Not anymore we don't. We threw your DAC back at Canada Post this afternoon. :wink: :roll: :) :D Hopefully it will landed on both feet soon in front of you.

Since we didn't install the GBC jack (I am going to call the connector require to connect any GBC power supply a GBC jack from now on), you are correct about go with the TPX120 route first before thinking about a GBC.

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Post by splityew » Wed Apr 09, 2014 2:36 pm

Wow! That was quick. Thank you. I look forward to Sacha turning up with a big box!

I like the idea of totally isolating the DAC first to see what that does to SQ.

Thanks again :D

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GBC replace wall wart

Post by Gilbert Y » Wed Apr 09, 2014 11:29 pm

Talking to a customer to day and came up with this................ conclusion........

All wall wart power supplies can be replaced by GBC power supply. In a other word, we can purposely build a GBC power supply to replace those little tiny switching wall wart power supply which dump hugh amount of noise into the powerline.

I have also seen other companies offer after market power supply. For $250, they give you a 12V linear power supply in a half decent looking metal case with 2x4700uF capacitance in it. Yes, two of the 4700uF. That is not even 10,000uF in total. GBC100 has 94,000uF inside. GBC500 has 1.6 Farads or 1,600,000uF inside that big pipe.

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Post by Jo » Thu Apr 10, 2014 6:56 am

Gilbert,

Which GBC model could be considered the minimum recommended to be connected to a Macbook?

Thanks,

Jo

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Post by Gilbert Y » Thu Apr 10, 2014 8:00 am

Jo wrote:Gilbert,

Which GBC model could be considered the minimum recommended to be connected to a Macbook?

Thanks,

Jo

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Post by Jo » Thu Apr 10, 2014 8:29 pm

Gilbert, the info on its original ps is the following:

Input: 1.5A 100 240V 50/60 Hz SAI TE 20170

Output: +16.5V 3.65A PSCV600119

Besides the different charge connector each notebook has, a GBC100 could be used in different notebooks?

Thanks,

Jo

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