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Gilbert Y
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PostPosted: Sun Mar 20, 2011 9:25 pm    Post subject: Ragtime Reply with quote

Anyone interested in ragtime moooosic? Like these.......



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PostPosted: Wed Mar 23, 2011 10:17 am    Post subject: Ragtime Reply with quote

Gilbert, thanks for a tip.

I must admit, that I always had a problem with piano music. It was too discrete and mechanical and thin sounding to me, there was lack of flow. It irritated my ears sometimes. Was I weird? Some people say that piano is a king of instruments, but I didn`t think so.

I quite liked some Chopin, so maybe there was hope I thought.

Now, since I have seen this thread, I put some effort into understanding ragtime and I think this particular music is not out of my reach. I see brain and heart and guts too involved in this surprisingly complex music. I see how somebody who likes Reich can like ragtime too, and I see why Stravinsky with his brain power was impressed by this music too.

I always liked dixieland and stuff like Hot Fives and Sevens with Louis Armstrong and now I am going to look into this music too.
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PostPosted: Wed Mar 23, 2011 11:44 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

aki

If you are new into ragtime, try to get the newer recording and enjoy the music with good sound. If you get those old recordings, most likely they will turn you off right away. If piano sound too thin to you try the Paragon Ragtime Orchestra stuff. I found any of their recordings are very good in term of music and sound. They sound full enough to be enjoyable but remain true to the time.

I like all kind of music with one or two exception. I put this thread up because I want to see if audiofools out there like ragtime. I have more weird and not to weird music in my collection. And like I said to Nikki in another post, I will try any kind of music once, at least once.
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PostPosted: Wed Mar 23, 2011 6:06 pm    Post subject: Ragtime Reply with quote

I found out, that I can`t limit myself only to good sounding recordings, otherwise I will miss a lot of great music. I am ready to go straight into Hissing Monoland to get some juicy old stuff, even piano solo. When the music is engaging enough, sound quality doesn`t matter (that much)...So I will check out Paragon Ragtime Orchestra as todays represantation of old music, but I will get Jelly Roll Morton and Eubie Banks too. YouTube helps when one need to taste some music to see if yes or no.

Meanwhile, right now, I am listening to this:
http://www.amazon.com/Microphone-Music-Raymond-Scott/dp/B000086B8X

Raymond Scott composed some supercharged unstoppable swing and some pretty strange early electronic music too.

He was very interesting man:
http://raymondscott.com/

Here is another very interesting and this time very contemporary mutation of jazz I like:
http://www.amazon.com/Livingroom-Hush-Jaga-Jazzist/dp/B00009L545/ref=sr_1_2?ie=UTF8&qid=1300920611&sr=1-2

What do you think?
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PostPosted: Wed Mar 23, 2011 9:52 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I have heard of Raymond Scott but have not own any of this album. His stuff is interesting and I generally like what I have heard so far. The Livingroom Hush by Jaga is something I like to listen when I am working. I am going to listen some more of them.

If anyone listen to more than a few type of music, there is no excuse of running out of music to listen.
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PostPosted: Thu Mar 24, 2011 1:07 pm    Post subject: Re: Ragtime Reply with quote

aki wrote:
I found out, that I can`t limit myself only to good sounding recordings, otherwise I will miss a lot of great music.


First, welcome to the Forum Aki. Any Blue Circle gear?

Gil But, I searched my collection and believe it or not, no trace of Ragtime whatsoever! Lots of Big Band and Swing though. I must rectify this anomaly pronto!
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PostPosted: Thu Mar 24, 2011 3:30 pm    Post subject: Re: Ragtime Reply with quote

BlueKnight wrote:
aki wrote:
I found out, that I can`t limit myself only to good sounding recordings, otherwise I will miss a lot of great music.


First, welcome to the Forum Aki. Any Blue Circle gear?

Gil But, I searched my collection and believe it or not, no trace of Ragtime whatsoever! Lots of Big Band and Swing though. I must rectify this anomaly pronto!


What period of big band do you have? And what type of swing? Are they WWII 40's big band swing? I listen anything from the 40's to current in term of big band. In term of swing, there are a lot of swing moooosic oooot there. Last fall, I have flooded myself with a lot of gypsy swing moooosie. I am off the phase for now. I am still on the romantic classical phase with a a good doze of minimalist mix with it.
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PostPosted: Thu Mar 24, 2011 3:44 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Mostly 40's/50s era. Glenn Miller/ Benny Goodman/ Woody Herman/ Artie Shaw / Les Brown/ Duke Ellington/ Tommy Dorsey and Count Basie.

Louis Armstrong is an entity all by himself.
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PostPosted: Thu Mar 24, 2011 7:50 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

BlueKnight,
thanks for welcome and sorry for occasional glitches in my english, it is not my native language.

I have this great sounding thing from Gilbert (similar a bit to your DAC PRE in its multifunctionality) :

http://www.flickr.com/photos/17843311@N00/5142461525/in/set-72157625248743498/

and Gilbert just made 1,2Farad cap pack for me and I am waiting for FX2 and BC61 too.
Later I will post more about my gear in proper subforum.

Toay I listened to Black Saint and the Sinner Lady by Mingus and it is really fascinating how he used traditional collective improvisation of Armstrong era to create this cutting edge rich music. It is so full of life and emotions. Great stuff. When I listened to it first time it was pretty intense. It was one of defining moments for my appreciation of jazz.

Gilbert,
I have some gypsy swing in my ipod and it is great energiser. When you hear something like that, you gotta move.
But I can`t listen to it all day. It demands attention too persistently. It is not background music, that is for sure, but at the same time, it doesn`t have that ability to keep me breathless for 40 minutes like Mingus with his organic flow of sounds. Sometimes too much virtuosity is not enough music, that is true.
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PostPosted: Fri Mar 25, 2011 6:45 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

aki wrote:

http://www.flickr.com/photos/17843311@N00/5142461525/in/set-72157625248743498/







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PostPosted: Fri Mar 25, 2011 6:49 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Gil But and Aki,

What do you mean by 'Gypsy Swing'? Is it like New Flamenco? Give me an example.
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PostPosted: Fri Mar 25, 2011 10:38 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Gypsy Swing:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gypsy_jazz

I like this compilation for example - you can hear samples of it right there:

http://www.cdvdshop.ch/fr/search/gypsy-swing-154558.html


You can also try this funky gypsy brass attack with oriental elements:

http://www.amazon.com/LOrient-Est-Rouge-Kocani-Orkestar/dp/B000FDEU7G/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1301063832&sr=8-1

and

http://www.amazon.com/Baro-Biao-World-Wide-Wedding/dp/B00002DEG3/ref=sr_1_3?s=music&ie=UTF8&qid=1301064157&sr=1-3
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PostPosted: Fri Mar 25, 2011 10:45 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Aaah,,,Jazz Manouche. Bien sûr!
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PostPosted: Mon Apr 04, 2011 8:14 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Am listening to this tonight. Thought if someone want to get into ragtime. It's interesting and entertaining enough and doesn't have that honky sound that usually piano rag does. It's pretty good recording too.

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PostPosted: Wed Apr 06, 2011 10:59 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I quite enjoy ragtime music and have a particular fondness for..


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